Is discrimination against peace loving Muslims justified? Yes, I say


Ever since, time started getting classified as pre 9/11 and post 9/11 Muslims have been facing discrimination of various degrees. Islam and Muslims have been looked through a lens of suspicion and fear. Anyone wearing the white Islamic cap and with a beard is viewed as a terrorist. But do I blame the people. Nope. This reaction is very natural and bound to happen. If this status qou has to change, the change has to be brought to the cause and not the effect i.e. extremist Islam needs to be addressed.

If people who belong to Islam keep bombing us again and again and openly proclaimed that its a Islam vs everyone else war, then who are we supposed to see as our enemy? Wouldn’t all Muslims come under suspicion? I agree that its not right so, what should we do about it?

First of all, ‘we’ the people (which are from all religions) can’t and in fact shouldn’t do anything about radicalization of Islam. It is up to the Islamic community to decide their own destiny and in what direction they want their futures to be.

But the sad thing about Islamic community is that while the radicals have been shouting from rooftops about how they want Islam to be the religion of violence and intolerance, the moderates have just been silent spectators.

‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’

Muslims in general need to regain the faith and confidence of the other people, it is these progressive Muslims who need to stand up and silence their jihadi terrorist people (who, are supposedly using the name of Islam for their own selfish motives) and teach the world about Islam: the religion of love and peace if it is at all ( I haven’t read the Quran so, cant really comment on this).

The Moderates have always maintained that Islam is a religion of peace with no space for violence, at the same time the extremists claim that Terrorism is the holiest action for Muslims. Who should we believe? What is the ‘real’ Islam?

It is time the whole picture gets clearer. It is time moderates stop crying over discrimination meted out to them. After all, it is only coz your not so peace loving cousins bombed all us, in the name of your peace loving religion and you stood there without saying anything about it. It is time all moderates take up the responsibility of clearing the mess called extremism and stop passing the buck by claiming victimization. Coz, Peace-loving Muslims are not the victims, they are the cause of the problem they let grow so huge. It is time.

  • http://schogini.in/ Gayatri

    Wow…this is a bold one – but, well said. Its up to the Muslim’s to define and show the world what is Islam – show that Islam is a religion that respects freedom of speech and action – tolerance for all. Its time they tell the world that Islam pure.

  • Gayatri

    Wow…this is a bold one – but, well said. Its up to the Muslim's to define and show the world what is Islam – show that Islam is a religion that respects freedom of speech and action – tolerance for all. Its time they tell the world that Islam pure.

  • dibyabttb

    grt one. This blog reminds me the dialogue of Imran Khan in the movie New York that muslims need to take the 1st step against terrorism to ensure dignity of other muslims

  • Dibyasundar Nayak

    grt one. This blog reminds me the dialogue of Imran Khan in the movie New York that muslims need to take the 1st step against terrorism to ensure dignity of other muslims

  • http://twitter.com/mk44214 Murali Krishna

    I think I disagree with what you say here. Am sorry for doing it, can’t help it.

    – What would you say if someone comes up to you and says you should control the Ram Sena against attacking pubs in Mangalore?
    – What would you say if someone comes up to you and says you are responsible for what happened in Gujarat?

    Please don’t dig much into the above examples.. they are meant to make a point and the point is… if a group of people are extreme, the entire religion can’t be blamed for it.

    I have neighbours, classmates, colleagues, friends who belong to Islam, I can’t even imagine any of them being supportive of these extreme acts? I know they loath and get scared whenever such things happen.

    What’s important here is to look at a person beyond the title of the religion. I like the dialogue of A Wednesday, “Main aapko uska naam nahin bataunga… aadmi naam mein mazhad dhoondta hain”

    • http://www.adityakumarnayak.com Aditya Kumar Nayak

      Seriously, Murli You dont have to be sorry for disagreeing. I have always believed that disagreement is as important as anything else in a discussion. :)

      As for your argument. Yes, we all would be responsible if we dont oppose it. My argument is not just about one religion.
      anyone who does not oppose the crime and just watches it silently, is a criminal too. and the sad part about religious wrongs is that it is done using the name of all its followers.

      Just using your examples, every hindu who did not oppose the Gujarat Riots is a culprit and so is every one who did not oppose Ram Sena.

      For all extremes in a religion, moderates exist too. But the problem arises when the moderates lets the extremists get too heavy and dominate the character of religion.The problem starts when the moderates dont silence the non-sense that these extremist utter.

      It is the duty of the moderates to answer back at the extremist otherwise, they too should be ready to face discrimination.

      The idea here is not about if anything is wrong with the religion. The idea is that if you let the evil overrule you, you should be ready to face the consequences.

  • Murali Krishna

    I think I disagree with what you say here. Am sorry for doing it, can't help it.

    – What would you say if someone comes up to you and says you should control the Ram Sena against attacking pubs in Mangalore?
    – What would you say if someone comes up to you and says you are responsible for what happened in Gujarat?

    Please don't dig much into the above examples.. they are meant to make a point and the point is… if a group of people are extreme, the entire religion can't be blamed for it.

    I have neighbours, classmates, colleagues, friends who belong to Islam, I can't even imagine any of them being supportive of these extreme acts? I know they loath and get scared whenever such things happen.

    What's important here is to look at a person beyond the title of the religion. I like the dialogue of A Wednesday, "Main aapko uska naam nahin bataunga… aadmi naam mein mazhad dhoondta hain"

  • http://www.adityakumarnayak.com Aditya Kumar Nayak

    Seriously, Murli You dont have to be sorry for disagreeing. I have always believed that disagreement is as important as anything else in a discussion. :)

    As for your argument. Yes, we all would be responsible if we dont oppose it. My argument is not just about one religion.
    anyone who does not oppose the crime and just watches it silently, is a criminal too. and the sad part about religious wrongs is that it is done using the name of all its followers.

    Just using your examples, every hindu who did not oppose the Gujarat Riots is a culprit and so is every one who did not oppose Ram Sena.

    For all extremes in a religion, moderates exist too. But the problem arises when the moderates lets the extremists get too heavy and dominate the character of religion.The problem starts when the moderates dont silence the non-sense that these extremist utter.

    It is the duty of the moderates to answer back at the extremist otherwise, they too should be ready to face discrimination.

    The idea here is not about if anything is wrong with the religion. The idea is that if you let the evil overrule you, you should be ready to face the consequences.

  • Aditya Kumar Nayak

    Seriously, Murli You dont have to be sorry for disagreeing. I have always believed that disagreement is as important as anything else in a discussion. :)

    As for your argument. Yes, we all would be responsible if we dont oppose it. My argument is not just about one religion.
    anyone who does not oppose the crime and just watches it silently, is a criminal too. and the sad part about religious wrongs is that it is done using the name of all its followers.

    Just using your examples, every hindu who did not oppose the Gujarat Riots is a culprit and so is every one who did not oppose Ram Sena.

    For all extremes in a religion, moderates exist too. But the problem arises when the moderates lets the extremists get too heavy and dominate the character of religion.The problem starts when the moderates dont silence the non-sense that these extremist utter.

    It is the duty of the moderates to answer back at the extremist otherwise, they too should be ready to face discrimination.

    The idea here is not about if anything is wrong with the religion. The idea is that if you let the evil overrule you, you should be ready to face the consequences.

  • Aditya Kumar Nayak

    Seriously, Murli You dont have to be sorry for disagreeing. I have always believed that disagreement is as important as anything else in a discussion. :)

    As for your argument. Yes, we all would be responsible if we dont oppose it. My argument is not just about one religion.
    anyone who does not oppose the crime and just watches it silently, is a criminal too. and the sad part about religious wrongs is that it is done using the name of all its followers.

    Just using your examples, every hindu who did not oppose the Gujarat Riots is a culprit and so is every one who did not oppose Ram Sena.

    For all extremes in a religion, moderates exist too. But the problem arises when the moderates lets the extremists get too heavy and dominate the character of religion.The problem starts when the moderates dont silence the non-sense that these extremist utter.

    It is the duty of the moderates to answer back at the extremist otherwise, they too should be ready to face discrimination.

    The idea here is not about if anything is wrong with the religion. The idea is that if you let the evil overrule you, you should be ready to face the consequences.

  • Tanushree

    You’re really not going to like this one.

    Think of Islam as a community, or a social group…rather than a religious group. I know I’m committing a sociological blunder, but I guess sometimes we have to.

    I’m not going to neither agree or disagree with what you’ve said. True its ‘ oh-so-bold’ and all.
    But, just think of what gave rise to the ‘Islamic fundamentalist’ and the ‘ Muslim terrorist’. Its not even about religion. Its about perceived injustice. Think Gulf War. Think why Taliban was created.

    • http://www.adityakumarnayak.com Aditya Kumar Nayak

      Not at all. I appreciate all comments that come in and I never delete any comments coz Its the readers that make the blog what it is. :)

      Since, you yourseld believe that it is coz if ‘perceived’ injustice. The change has to be brought in the perception amongst the people who feel victimized if at all.

      and as for the whole terrorism thing. Al-Qaeda was a way for a now jobless (after beating the Russians from Afghanistan) hate loving Osama who was suddenly out of business coz he beat the ‘non-believers’ aka Russians. So, he turned against America.

      LeT and JeM and even IM are just ways by Pak to get back at India coz there is no other way they can harm us.

      There are numerous examples all over the world which can point to Islam being used as just a tool to justify other causes. Have a look this article. Hamas vs Al Qaeda in Palestine

      So, there is no such thing as a Islamic terror. Its just being branded like that.
      Injustice is happening to everyone, not just muslims. I know that doesnt justify it but at the same time that cannot justify killing people.

      • Tanushree

        All terrorist acts have been a last resort solution to major injustice…the recent Naxal attacks are probably a very good example.

        By perceived injustice, I’m not trying to ‘undermine’ their cause. Because, truly, they have a cause. All the terrorist outfits do. Neither am I defending killing people as a means to justice. By perceived injustice, I mean the perception of the injustice. I guess to change that, we need to realise that we ( the world community at large…who’s pointing fingers at the USA. I’m not) are largely responsible for the creation of all the terror outfits. Think Chechnya. The theatre hostage in Moscow. Think Naxals.

        PS. I think Osama found a new cause.
        He’s going anti-US because of Climate Change…and I actually agree with him.

        • http://www.adityakumarnayak.com Aditya Kumar Nayak

          So, are you saying that if you have been at receiving end of a major injustice, it is okay and ‘justified’ to become a terrorist?

          I would also like to know what is their cause, besides being psychopaths who like blowing people.

          • Tanushree

            Didn’t I say I’m not defending them?
            And neither am I justifying their actions. But what I’m saying is that they have been driven by sheer injustice, inequalities and poverty to become such potent killers. Obviously with a mixture of fundamentalisim, but that’s not the point.
            The point is, that, we cannot simply rush to conclusions and label them as ‘psychopaths’ if we really want to solve the problem of global terrorism. We need to understand the underlying causes.
            Why don’t we simply just hang Azmal Kasab? We know he did it. True, we want to get ‘invaluable’ information from him but also to ensure that we understand the causes behind him committing such an act… to prevent others from following.

          • http://www.adityakumarnayak.com Aditya Kumar Nayak

            Okay, since this is not leading us anywhere lets try a different perspective.

            Building from your previous post, you believe that we need to prevent others from following, right?

            Now, the issue is that I dont think everyone should preach these guys whats right and wrong with their actions. It should be the in whose names these people are doing their stuff. Which in this case are the Muslims.

            A Christian or a Hindu cant argue with a fanatic terrorist who says that quran says that he is right. Who’s a natural choice? Someone who follows the same faith, right?

          • Tanushree

            Okay. Firstly…even they know what’s right and wrong. And most of them…the one’s who are committing the acts, actually even the ones who are making them do it…are not doing it for ‘religion’. I repeat, it’s a cause. Not the religion. Religion is simply the medium through which its being perpuated, because we are emotional about religion.
            Oh, and btw, read the newspaper today? Jihad Jane is an American citizen… she feels they have a ’cause’.

            I know this debate seems pretty pointless. But its not, mostly. Its distracting me from my Sociology exam tomorrow, but I guess that can wait. =)

          • http://www.adityakumarnayak.com Aditya Kumar Nayak

            Okay, if I understand you correctly we have a problem of a fundamental difference in our arguments.I believe that Religion is not the cause but the excuse.
            and so is the so called injustice meeted out to them. Injustices happen everywhere, that doesn’t mean that we take up arms. Whats the point of a society and a system then?

            As for right and wrong, according to them this is right and that is why they do it.

          • Tanushree

            Who decides what is right and wrong? You’ve merely repeated what I’ve said all this time.

            I guess you need to decide what’s wrong and right for you.

          • http://www.adityakumarnayak.com Aditya Kumar Nayak

            Every individual decides whats right and wrong for him or her. I am Sry for repeating what you said, but what did I repeat?

            Lets avoid taking personal digs.

          • Tanushree

            I’m sorry if you believe that I’m taking digs at you. I’m merely frustrated…and if you read my posts again, you’ll understand what I’m saying.

          • http://www.adityakumarnayak.com Aditya Kumar Nayak

            All that I can understand is that you feel that they have a cause coz justice has been denied to them.

            To which I feel that India has always expected them with open arms. and thank god that India is not Palestine where this Jihadi Propaganda of victimization works

  • Tanushree

    You're really not going to like this one.

    Think of Islam as a community, or a social group…rather than a religious group. I know I'm committing a sociological blunder, but I guess sometimes we have to.

    I'm not going to neither agree or disagree with what you've said. True its ' oh-so-bold' and all.
    But, just think of what gave rise to the 'Islamic fundamentalist' and the ' Muslim terrorist'. Its not even about religion. Its about perceived injustice. Think Gulf War. Think why Taliban was created.

  • Aditya Kumar Nayak

    Not at all. I appreciate all comments that come in and I never delete any comments coz Its the readers that make the blog what it is. :)

    Since, you yourseld believe that it is coz if 'perceived' injustice. The change has to be brought in the perception amongst the people who feel victimized if at all.

    and as for the whole terrorism thing. Al-Qaeda was a way for a now jobless (after beating the Russians from Afghanistan) hate loving Osama who was suddenly out of business coz he beat the 'non-believers' aka Russians. So, he turned against America.

    LeT and JeM and even IM are just ways by Pak to get back at India coz there is no other way they can harm us.

    There are numerous examples all over the world which can point to Islam being used as just a tool to justify other causes. Have a look this article. Hamas vs Al Qaeda in Palestine

    So, there is no such thing as a Islamic terror. Its just being branded like that.
    Injustice is happening to everyone, not just muslims. I know that doesnt justify it but at the same time that cannot justify killing people.

  • Tanushree

    All terrorist acts have been a last resort solution to major injustice…the recent Naxal attacks are probably a very good example.

    By perceived injustice, I'm not trying to 'undermine' their cause. Because, truly, they have a cause. All the terrorist outfits do. Neither am I defending killing people as a means to justice. By perceived injustice, I mean the perception of the injustice. I guess to change that, we need to realise that we ( the world community at large…who's pointing fingers at the USA. I'm not) are largely responsible for the creation of all the terror outfits. Think Chechnya. The theatre hostage in Moscow. Think Naxals.

    PS. I think Osama found a new cause.
    He's going anti-US because of Climate Change…and I actually agree with him.

  • Aditya Kumar Nayak

    So, are you saying that if you have been at receiving end of a major injustice, it is okay and 'justified' to become a terrorist?

    I would also like to know what is their cause, besides being psychopaths who like blowing people.

  • Tanushree

    Didn't I say I'm not defending them?
    And neither am I justifying their actions. But what I'm saying is that they have been driven by sheer injustice, inequalities and poverty to become such potent killers. Obviously with a mixture of fundamentalisim, but that's not the point.
    The point is, that, we cannot simply rush to conclusions and label them as 'psychopaths' if we really want to solve the problem of global terrorism. We need to understand the underlying causes.
    Why don't we simply just hang Azmal Kasab? We know he did it. True, we want to get 'invaluable' information from him but also to ensure that we understand the causes behind him committing such an act… to prevent others from following.

  • Aditya Kumar Nayak

    Okay, since this is not leading us anywhere lets try a different perspective.

    Building from your previous post, you believe that we need to prevent others from following, right?

    Now, the issue is that I dont think everyone should preach these guys whats right and wrong with their actions. It should be the in whose names these people are doing their stuff. Which in this case are the Muslims.

    A Christian or a Hindu cant argue with a fanatic terrorist who says that quran says that he is right. Who's a natural choice? Someone who follows the same faith, right?

  • Tanushree

    Okay. Firstly…even they know what's right and wrong. And most of them…the one's who are committing the acts, actually even the ones who are making them do it…are not doing it for 'religion'. I repeat, it's a cause. Not the religion. Religion is simply the medium through which its being perpuated, because we are emotional about religion.
    Oh, and btw, read the newspaper today? Jihad Jane is an American citizen… she feels they have a 'cause'.

    I know this debate seems pretty pointless. But its not, mostly. Its distracting me from my Sociology exam tomorrow, but I guess that can wait. =)

  • Aditya Kumar Nayak

    Okay, if I understand you correctly we have a problem of a fundamental difference in our arguments.I believe that Religion is not the cause but the excuse.
    and so is the so called injustice meeted out to them. Injustices happen everywhere, that doesn't mean that we take up arms. Whats the point of a society and a system then?

    As for right and wrong, according to them this is right and that is why they do it.

  • Tanushree

    Who decides what is right and wrong? You've merely repeated what I've said all this time.

    I guess you need to decide what's wrong and right for you.

  • Aditya Kumar Nayak

    Every individual decides whats right and wrong for him or her. I am Sry for repeating what you said, but what did I repeat?

    Lets avoid taking personal digs.

  • Tanushree

    I'm sorry if you believe that I'm taking digs at you. I'm merely frustrated…and if you read my posts again, you'll understand what I'm saying.

  • Aditya Kumar Nayak

    All that I can understand is that you feel that they have a cause coz justice has been denied to them.

    To which I feel that India has always expected them with open arms. and thank god that India is not Palestine where this Jihadi Propaganda of victimization works